We already know that it is imperative to recognize that everything is derived from nothing. Form is derived from emptiness. So, in that respect, what is the LINE between nothing and everything? Why is there something rather than nothing?
It is because YOU are something; YOU are everything.
What ARE you plugged into? Essentially you are plugged into everything. You have infinite wires, infinite curiosities, infinite questions, and a limited amount of answers. Once you’re plugged into everything, you will be unaware of the fact that once you plug out of something, you will most likely plug INTO some other (more or less corrupt) entity. Those who wage a crusade of peace will want you to PLUG OUT OF corruption and PLUG IN TO peace. It matters not their intentions, their directions, or their derivatives. They are destined to become that which they seek to destroy; however that is not relevant, as destruction is plainly human nature. Human nature is indeed AGAINST nature -- that is a fact. It is because it is conditioned; because it is woven into our psyches from the moment we are born so tightly that it becomes our nature. We preach that which we practice. This is plainly sociological and nothing more.
The fact is, you are always plugged in to SOMETHING. In fact, you’re plugged into EVERYTHING. You can’t imagine what NOTHING is, or what NOTHING means, because in order for you to imagine nothingness, you’d have to be present to imagine it, and you are something, thereby contaminating the nothingness. In this respect, you should be EVERYTHING. Because you are plugged in to everything. When you (hypothetically) stand in relation to nothingness you become everything. You transcend the nothingness. What we must realize is that WE are the line between everything and nothing. We are what led from emptiness to form. We ascend from nothing and TRANSCEND everything.
WHAT ARE YOU PLUGGED IN TO?
Can you fathom what it is like to not be plugged in at all?
In order for this scenario to be plausible, you’d have to inexorably plug yourself into nothing. You can’t stand alone, unplugged, objective and separate from nothingness because you are something. As previously stated, you are everything. You are everything. And once you plug into nothing, you become the bridge from everything to nothing. In this respect, nothing represents what we can call colloquially, “freedom.” This freedom does not refer to the freedom of speech, or suffrage, or our earthly rights. Our earthly rights are of such insignificance that the staggering magnitude of our insignificance is the only thing significant. We will eat and devour each other because that is what we do and that is our nature. That is OUR nature. We created it, crafted it, and “perfected” it, so that it would be imperfect. After all, a life devoid of conflict would not be much of a life at all.
So, what is freedom?
Simply (and I use that term VERY lightly) stated, freedom is chaos. Chaos is the only entity that is not collective, cannot be collective, and cannot be institutionalized, organized, or even accurately theorized. Chaos is independent of everything. Chaos exists in a separate realm, so far disconnected from our own earthly pleasures and obsessions and addictions that we seldom recognize or respect its existence. In this respect it is entirely correct to assume that chaos is synonymous with nothingness.
Think about it. Or, don’t. Because you can’t.
You can’t think about nothingness because, as previously stated, you need to be present to observe it. You ruin the nothingness because you’re separate. You’re something. You’re everything.
It is also impossible for you to accurately imagine chaos. In order for you to do so, you must be present to observe it. You are an organized and collected entity, with thoughts, dreams, desires, and earthly pleasures. You are nothing like chaos. You are essentially the antithesis of chaos, and you ruin it by audaciously existing in such a manner.
This is what you must do. Unplug yourself from everything. Separate yourself from everything regardless of how corrupt or noble or virtuous everything may seem. Those differences are trivial. Every institution is just a hand, just a socket, begging for you to plug into it. Once you unplug yourself from everything, YOU become everything. You TRANSCEND everything, and you become the LINE, the BRIDGE, and the UNION between nothing and everything.
If you can exist in this manner, emulating and personifying chaos and nothingness alike (for they are alike) then you will achieve true and tangible freedom.
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"What a beautiful dream
That could flash on the screen
In a blink of an eye and be gone from me"
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3, 2, 1 -- shrink and depress!
2) Not everything becomes corrupted. That’s an irrationally pessimistic view.
3) Destruction is not in our nature. A look at evolution reveals that only the strong survive so to speak. So we are destructive due to weapons effect and learning. These things are like everything else, learned. As society has evolved we have, as a species become less violent.
4) It is not just we that transcend nothingness, everything transcends it. Having said that it isn’t there, so there is nothing to transcend.
5) What makes our rights insignificant? Humanity is hugely significant in the world, we affect almost everything. Do not underestimate us.
6) How chaos is not independent of everything, chaos is everything. If nothing were here chaos would not exist.
7) Also, freedom, simply stated (because it is a simply concept) is the ability to act.
8) You talk about freedom as if total freedom should be what we aim for. That is not the case. With total freedom comes the corruption et al that you irrationally believe is everywhere.
9) You say that we cannot think of nothingness etc, however most of your argument was actually about nothingness. Problem?
This has a lot more logic than the other one I have critiqued. Though I still think you nihilistic conclusions are melodramatic in the extreme.
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"What a beautiful dream
That could flash on the screen
In a blink of an eye and be gone from me"
No, it isn’t. Nothing is possible, not impossible. NOTHING is impossible. And anything can be corrupted with the simple imbalance of the somethings called good and bad. When they're imbalanced, the ideas known as gluttony, hedonism, evil, and malice arise. I am considering nothingness as metaphysical, not mathematical or logical.
2) Not everything becomes corrupted. That's an irrationally pessimistic view.
Of course I did not mean that literally everything becomes corrupted. I'm only referring to human social constructs.
3) Destruction is not in our nature. A look at evolution reveals that only the strong survive so to speak. So we are destructive due to weapons effect and learning. These things are like everything else, learned. As society has evolved we have, as a species become less violent.
Destruction is imminent. Civilization has advanced through destruction. We've gotten this far because people have killed and died for it. It has nothing to do with "strength" or "survival of the fittest." In this day and age strength is not determined by the dominant gene's "will" to thrive; only who has the most power and control.
4) It is not just we that transcend nothingness, everything transcends it. Having said that it isn't there, so there is nothing to transcend.
Well put, however, by transcending nothingness we become the bridge between form and emptiness. Essentially we reach out (or branch out) from nothing and force ourselves to plug into something(s) and confuse ourselves with all the intricacies and unknowns of all the somethings we assume we should possess.
5) What makes our rights insignificant? Humanity is hugely significant in the world, we affect almost everything. Do not underestimate us.
Our rights are very insignificant in relation to the living universe. The universe was here long before we were and it'll be here long after we're gone, unchanged by our petty and trivial pleasures and struggles. That's all I'm saying.
6) How chaos is not independent of everything, chaos is everything. If nothing were here chaos would not exist.
Please remember that my interpretation of chaos stems from a metaphysical standpoint, not a mathematical or logical one. Chaos IS independent of everything, and so is nothingness. Chaos and nothingness are remarkably alike and interrelated. Essentially, chaos is pure, unadulterated, unbridled freedom.
7) Also, freedom, simply stated (because it is a simply concept) is the ability to act.
Freedom? What freedom? Sure, we all have the ability to act, but only within the discretion of the superior, whether that superior is our society, government, religion, or other institution. We're only granted as much freedom as we're given. You're only really free inside your head.
8) You talk about freedom as if total freedom should be what we aim for. That is not the case. With total freedom comes the corruption et al that you irrationally believe is everywhere.
No, my idea of freedom is to be disconnected from everything, disconnected from corruption and virtuosity alike without replacing with anything else that can continue the disillusionment corruption entails.
9) You say that we cannot think of nothingness etc, however most of your argument was actually about nothingness. Problem?
What's the problem with that? I can talk about nothingness all I want, but that doesn't mean that I can actually accurately imagine it. It's the same as what I said about chaos earlier.
This has a lot more logic than the other one I have critiqued. Though I still think you nihilistic conclusions are melodramatic in the extreme.
Thank you for reading and commenting. :]
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3, 2, 1 -- shrink and depress!
2) I guess its hard to find an example against your statement. But the corruption is often by a minority (often large minorities). And also, like you said, NOTHING is impossible.
3) Civilisation has not advanced through destruction all that much. We have regressed because of sept11. We regressed because of ww1 and 2. Every war has caused a regression. Every major act of violence in human history has. Besides my point was on why we are not naturally destructive. That was all
4) Sure we are reaching out and are interconnected, but we are not coming from nothingness or anything like that.
5) Well, I guess we are both guessing here, mankind has drastically changed earth. Only time will tell if we will change the rest of the galaxy.
6) Ok, I’d say your interp still has problems. Nothingness is simple, it is almost complete order. Complete freedom is the opposite. So they aren’t alike. Id also say that actually admitting your concepts are not based on logical isn’t good. If there is no logic in an argument then it isn’t really an argument, just a mess. There is logic here, metaphysics is logical. However I would still propose that chaos is inextricably linked to existence, if there was nothing to be free, then there would be no freedom, and then no chaos.
7) No, I am free to kill someone. I can physically carry out the act of murder. I might get locked up, but I can do it. The freedoms that are limited are when you are physically in able, or I guess financially. Both of these can be overcome to an extent. Obviously we are not completely free. This is another problem (this is advice! Sorry its so critical) in your argument, you talk about metaphysics and how this argument is not grounded in science etc, but then you talk about us being limited by our establishments. There are small in discrepancies that need addressed it clean up the argument’s internal logic.
8) If we are disconnected from everything, then there is little point in anything. It would just be, connections are important, they can be bad, but not always negative.
9) Mmmm, word it differently? Or more accurately. Surely if you do not know something or cannot imagine it accurately then you should open to the fact that our conclusions on nothingness could be wrong?
My pleasure
Similar to your view on nothingness, what is your view on infinity?
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"What a beautiful dream
That could flash on the screen
In a blink of an eye and be gone from me"
And to clarify: Stop speaking of 'nothing' as a negation; it is a thing, a neutral concept that you keep aberrating from and missing the point which is why I think you've a problem with LIMed's theory.
2) I guess its hard to find an example against your statement. But the corruption is often by a minority (often large minorities). And also, like you said, NOTHING is impossible.
2] Are you being racist? But nay, the kind of corruption she spoke of was the kind that is deeply rooted in the routines most humans in whatever social class and any part of the world has succumb to and accepted. And you're saying that last phrase wrong: Nothing IS impossible. Nothing IS possible. One is the negative form but both say the same thing, freedom.
3] In all three events you referred, there has been plenty of destruction on scales you're probably not even aware of seeing as how you're ignorant in how you deduced that we're not naturally destructive. However, everything is naturally destructive, like LIMed makes apparent. All things struggle and create friction both metaphysical and physical to both the living and the non-living through ideas and bullets alike.
4] And yes, we're reaching out FROM nothingness. Deny it all you'd like but you're remaining confused and scared of the unknown like most of everyone else. And it's okay. I agree with LIMed and add that I think, from nothingness, that everyone has their own rate of understanding/wrapping their heads around things.
5] Very boring speaking of humans really. The main point stressed is that we need to stop labeling our inherently sentient nature and wonder why we care to go on the way we have for so long, why earth is deteriorating. And I don't mean we as in mankind, I mean we as in the thinking species.
6] Ah. I'd have to say you're interpretation of LIMed's interpretation has problems. You're viewing the concept itself through a narrow view that you only seem to think means argument. No one is arguing anywhere. This is just a conversation that happens between everyone one and all things, but you can't see that as you've the idea in your head that 'logic' matters. You should know that logic itself has a dictating and governing logic. Sort of like a mirror or deux ex machina original version that can easily debunk logic itself. As in, you could give all the statements required to properly show how something is false, but then the higher logic could easily show you that you used so and so statements from so and so references and education either institutionalized or scholar-like that either biased your deduction or led you to fall short of a conclusion because you don't know everything and accept that.
7] And sure, you can kill someone, you can get reprimanded, but that's not at all an example of freedom. You'll obviously be guided by a rebellious social construct totally inverted and misconstrued to the point of your own personal psyche's meltdown and of course, you won't know you're crazy.
8] Ugh. Optimistic and nihilistic. Connections aren't negative; but you fail to see that indulging in all the whims of value through connections made allow a person a false sense of anything. The thoughts and feelings are real, but as long as the outside influences you, you are susceptible to trapping yourself within the imaginary confines of a world that tells you who you are.
And to your advice that isn't very critical... your critiquing to begin with, was from a very uncomfortable point of view.
9] And likewise upon you. LIMed did a great job and you've offered nothing positive, just gripes at ideas you've probably failed at in gargantuan degrees as a thinker. And if you're not okay with that term, you suck at being conscious, drake124.
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live trying to die, die trying to dream, dream trying to awake, awake trying to remember, remember trying to forget, forget trying to live.
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